lethargic_man: "Happy the person that finds wisdom, and the person that gets understanding."—Prov. 3:13. Icon by Tamara Rigg (limmud)

When I was growing up, the impression I got is that there was a huge gap in ancient Jewish literature between the last books of the Bible, closing shortly after Cyrus the Great let the Jews return to their homeland in 538 BCE, and the Mishna, the first written formulation of the Oral Torah, written at the start of the third century CE.

This is unfortunate, because the rabbinic Judaism of the Mishna is very different to the ancient Israelite religion depicted in the Bible, and because of a taboo against writing down the Oral Law, there's very little to see how we got from the one to t'other. The Talmud paints a picture that "we've always done things this way", but, as [personal profile] liv first pointed out to me a dozen years and more ago, this is Pharisaic propaganda. The Pharisees radically reformed Judaism, recentring it from the Temple to the synagogue and home, to enable it to survive the destruction of the Temple, but, because they lived in a society that rejected innovation in religion, they had to make out everything new they came up with to have gone back to the year dot, even where the Bible clearly disagrees with it.

But it's not actually true that the literary record between the close of the Bible and the Mishna is as empty as one might think. There's a whole bunch of documents that were written during this period, which the Jews largely went to forget about; we call them the Apocrypha, and the Pseudepigrapha (and the writings of Philo of Alexandria and Josephus, and *ahem* the Gospels). None of these give us an in-depth examination of the development of the Oral Law or the embryogenesis of Pharisaic Judaism, but there are some clues if you look for them.

For example, one of the two main prayers in the Jewish liturgy is the `Amida. The Talmud gives a variety of contradicting accounts of how this prayer originated, over the course of hundreds if not thousands of years. However, if you want hard evidence, look to the Wisdom of Ben Sira, which contains a sequence of prayers following the same themes as the central prayers of the weekday `Amida (though the words are completely different).

A second example: The Bible is clear that מְלָאכָה "work" is forbidden on the Sabbath, but does not give more than a few hints as to what this includes: collecting things in (Ex. 16:26, Numbers 15:32) or transporting them into (Jer. 17:19ff) the public domain, conducting business (Amos 8:5, Neh. 10:31, 13:15. The Talmud uses hermeneutics to derive, from the fact that the order to keep the Sabbath is given immediately in the Torah after the instructions on how to build the Mishkān (Tabernacle), that the activities prohibited on the Sabbath are those that went into the construction of the Mishkān. However, this smacks of post-facto justification to me. If you look in the Book of Jubilees, however, written three and a half centuries before the Mishna, the last chapter gives a list of activities prohibited on the Sabbath. With the exception of sexual intercourse (which probably reflects the mores of the all-male monastic Qumran community), the list pretty much reflects modern Jewish practice, but does not correlate at all with the 39 categories derived by the Talmud.

So, returning to the main subject, I became intrigued to know what exactly there are written in the late- and post-Biblical periods, and when it was written, and here's what I found out:

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Titles in green are ones I have read, those in red ones I would like to try and get to read some time; those in orange ones I have read but no longer remember anything of. :-( The collection of works is not a comprehensive list of everything written during this period.

The dates here are not systematic: some date ranges indicate uncertainty as to when the book was written, others that it was written over a period. The dates come, where possible, from books on my shelf, and where not, from Wikipedia.

A few of the dates need a little explanation: Ecclesiastes (קֹהֶלֶת), Wikipedia says, has two different sets of dates proposed for it depending on whether it has Greek influence, about which there is no agreement. And though the primary text of 2 Enoch dates to the first century, this text was tweaked to add Christian and Gnostic references any time up to the seventh century.

Lastly, the impression I get is that the Book of Daniel represents the gathering of a series of stories about its eponymous hero written over the course of centuries. Daniel 10 and 11 describe, as a prophesy and with almost all names removed, the political history of the Greek period of occupation of the Land of Israel, breaking off in the middle of the Hasmonean revolt, from which it is deduced that this is when this part of the book was written. But Ezekiel, writing centuries earlier, and a contemporary of the biblical Daniel (if he existed) makes reference twice to Daniel (or Dan'el: the word is written without the י) as a famously wise man, which I take as evidence for the Daniel stories starting in this own time.

Returning to the original point, the upshot is that the period between the close of the Bible and the Mishna is anything but devoid of Jewish literary representation. This confirms my suspicions, but I did have a few surprises in what I have learned from this little project, which can I suppose be summed up as surprise at how short the period between the close of the Bible and earliest of the works in the Dead Sea Scrolls actually was.

I had thought, a little while ago, that the chronology was: the history in Chronicles ends with the return of the Jews to the Land of Israel, and the last of the prophets wrote within a generation of this; then followed Ezra and Nehemiah, about sixty years after the return. Then I discovered that, though the history in Chronicles only goes up to the return (the end of the book quoting the opening of Ezra), the genealogy of the House of David is given for a further six generations, into the fourth century, so I thought the book must have been edited to add this after the rest of it was written.

But now I discover what's actually the case is that Malachi was writing a full century after the first return from the Babylonian exile; and Ezra and Nehemiah weren't written (according to Wikipedia and the Hertz Chumash—though I'd like to get another look at the Soncino Daniel-Ezra-Nehemiah, which gives different dates IIRC) until after the last generation mentioned in Chronicles (though the men themselves lived a little beforehand).

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I thought it would be fun to take some timelapse photography of my cheeseplant as its latest leaf emerged from its bud and unrolled. Unfortunately, the results aren't as slick as I would have liked, due to (a) the fact the cheeseplant would get moved by my opening and shutting the curtains every day, and me then pulling the leaves up above the windowsill, (b) snapping photos once a day being an insufficiently high frame rate, and (c) the most dramatic changes happening when I could not take photos due to either being in Berlin, or it being Pesach; but you get the idea.

Hmm, there doesn't seem to be a way to upload videos to Dreamwidth. I've uploaded it to LiveJournal, but can't embed that here, so Dreamwidth readers are going to have to see it over on my LiveJournal blog.
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[livejournal.com profile] aviva_m and I visited a zoo recently. I was reticent to go; I'm not comfortable with the incarceration of animals in small spaces—indeed, since I discovered the idea of goldfish having a seven second memory is a myth, I'm not even comfortable seeing them in a tank, unless it's as large as a pond. Consequently, we went to the larger of Berlin's two zoos, the Tierpark.

This was the first time I've been to a full-blown zoo (beyond the likes of Pet's Corner in Jesmond Dene) since I went to Whipsnade at about sixteen, and I was rather trepidatious. Once we got there, [livejournal.com profile] aviva_m was entranced to see the bears' antics, and I was delighted to discover that next door to the elephant enclosure one could find both hyraxes and a manatee: the elephant's closest relatives.

But.

The enclosures, though larger than, say, the 1930s-era bear pit we previously saw in Berlin,* were all rather small compared to the amount of a room the animals would have in the wild. I was distressed to hear a tiger wailing a single plaintive note over and over again, and to see a dhole engaging in a clear example of stereotypy: the pacing or rocking back and forth that characterises animals kept in an environment which is too small and does not feature enough stimulation. It actually had quite a large enclosure, quite a few tens of metres on a side, and the other dholes were unaffected, but this one was running in a figure-of-eight shape ten metres in length over and over again, and had been doing so long enough to have worn a rut into the ground.

* Built because the bear is the city's emblem (due to a folk etymology deriving the first half of "Berlin" (pronounced in German like "bear-lean") from "Bӓr").

† Or humans: think of the children found in the orphanages in Romania when Ceaușescu was toppled.

I find myself wondering what justifies treating animals like that? Once upon a time zoos were the only way people could get to encounter exotic animals beyond mere pictures of them, but now there are amazing natural history programmes on TV, which will show you animals in their natural environment in a way you could never see in a zoo.

It's true that sometimes zoos are a necessity for protecting endangered animals threatened with extinction in the wild, but my experience in game reserves in South Africa showed me there is an alternative. Yes, it's more expensive to run a game reserve and shuttle people around in jeeps in the hope (not guaranteed) they'll see wild animals, but so? Do animals exist to be paraded before us at the cost of their mental health? Besides, sometimes large game reserves aren't necessary. The penguins I saw in South Africa stayed in their colony by their own choice. They could go out swimming and hunting in the sea as far as they liked, but they always came back to their nests.

Thoughts or reactions?

Fishing

Sunday, April 19th, 2015 01:26 pm
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Are there any fishers here who would like to take me fishing with them one Sunday this summer in, say a fish pond in north London or somewhere else within reasonable distance of here?

This is all part of my desire to see if being an accomplice to taking an animal from running/swimming around freely to sitting on my plate can help drive me further towards vegetarianism, a path I've been stalled on for some years now.

First I tried to see shechita performed in an abbatoir, but the people I contacted were extremely suspicious and weren't having any of it. Then, when I mentioned this to R. Eiran Davies​, he said he'd invite me along next time he shechted a chicken for the woman [personal profile] ewt calls the Chicken Lady, but then she ran out of chickens, and by the time she'd got more, Eiran had left the country; so I'm now trying to re-start the process, but with a still more modest aim.

Fish do have an advantage for me though: Shechita not being required, and the animal not being fleishik, I could be directly responsible for the fish's death then take it home and cook and eat it myself.

PS: No Nirvana quotes, please; it's not factually correct.

April Fools

Thursday, April 2nd, 2015 06:54 am
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Well done to [livejournal.com profile] ewx, who it seems was the only one to realise in my last posting that the seasonal relevance wasn't to Pesach but to the fact it was April Fool's Day.

There is no tractate Listim of the Babylonian Talmud; listim means "bandits", and my excerpt—the quotation from Ezekiel (the first two verses of which aren't actually in the book*) and commentary both—was a transcript, with the language changed slightly to make it non-obvious, from the film Pulp Fiction.

* And indeed involved non-Biblical language: there doesn't appear to be a Biblical Hebrew word for "selfish".

In the film, R. Yulai Jules refers to the would-be café robber he's addressing as "Ringo". I took this as a reference to the nineteenth-century gunslinger Johnny Ringo (not to be confused with SF author John Ringo), and substituted "Shimon". Who better for R. Yulai to refer to in this context than R. Shimon ben Lakish, the notorious bandit turned Talmudic rabbi?

Now, is anyone kicking themselves for not spotting the quotation?

lethargic_man: "Happy the person that finds wisdom, and the person that gets understanding."—Prov. 3:13. Icon by Tamara Rigg (limmud)
I've been reading my way through the books of the Bible that aren't (or aren't all) part of the yearly reading cycle; I'm currently up to Ezekiel, which I'm reading with the Soncino commentary. Anyhow, I came across a passage with an interesting commentary which I think has relevance at this time of year (please excuse my suboptimal translation, my Aramaic is weak):
Babylonian Talmud, tractate Listim 10a מס׳ ליסטים י א
Ezekiel 25:17. "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee." R. Yulai said: I have been saying that for years; if you heard it, that was it for you. I never gave much thought to what it meant. I just thought it was something cold-blooded to say to an am haaretz before I did him in. But what I saw this morning made me think twice. See, now I'm thinking, maybe it means you're the evil man, and I'm the righteous man, and my weapon is the shepherd protecting me in the valley of darkness. Or it could mean you're the righteous man and I'm the shepherd and it's the world that's evil and selfish. I'd like that. But that isn't the truth. The truth is, you're the weak, and I am the tyranny of evil men. But I'm trying, Shimon. I'm trying real hard to be the shepherd. דֶרֶךְ הַצַּדִּיק נָסַב בְּעֲוֹנוֹת הָאָנוֹכִים וְעֲרִיצוּת הָרְשָׁעִים׃ בָּרוּךְ הָרוֹעֶה הַחַלָשִׁים בְּשֵׁם צְדָקָה וָחֶסֶד בעֶמֶק הַחוֹשֶׁךְ כִּי הוּא אָכֵן שׁוֹמֵר אָחִיו וּמוֹצֵא יְלָדִים נֶאְבָדִים׃ וְעָשִׂיתִי בָם נְקָמוֹת גְּדֹלוֹת בְּתוֹכְחוֹת חֵמָה וְיָדְעוּ כִּי־אֲנִי ה׳ בְּתִתִּי אֶת־נִקְמָתִי בָּם׃ (יחזקאל כ׳ה י׳ז) אמר ר׳ יולאי האי אמרי לשנין ואין שמעת האיך כל בשבילך׃ לא חשבי עליי, רק חשבי דהוא מאי בדמא קר לומר לעם הארץ לפני דהרגיהו׃ אבל הרהרי אחרי מאי דראי בבוקר׃ אלימא דאנת רשעא ואנא צדיקא ונשקי רעיא דמגני בעמקא חשכא׃ ואבא דאמרי דאנת רשעא ואנא רעיא ועלמא הוא רשעא ואנוכי׃ וכך אנא אהבנא׃ אבל פתרונא דאנת חלשא ואנא עריצותיי רשעין׃ ואנא נסי נסינא להווא רעיא׃
Now, the question is: can you work out what the seasonal relevance is? (Clue: The fact my brother once read the quoted passage at the top after שְׁפוֹךְ חֲמָתְךָ during the seder isn't it!)
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There's a new version of my Wandering Jews siddur available, featuring:
  • Egalitarian and progressive additions and alternatives, presented in grey so those who prefer can ignore them and use the traditional text.
  • Lots of corrections to the text; mostly very minor (and frequently invisible to non grammar geeqs) in the case of the Hebrew, but sometimes more major in the case of the transliteration.
  • Stage directions for bowing and taking steps forwards and backwards.
  • A thorough overhauling of the transliteration for consistency.
  • The Sephardi/original wording of Yedid Nefesh as an alternative to the Ashkenazi wording.
  • Adon Olam as an alternative to Yigdal (those who know me will know this is one of my bugbears!).

I busted a gut trying to get this ready for this Friday's WJ-alike event in Berlin (if you're reading this and would like to attend, let me know and I'll send you the details!), but anyone else planning to hold a Friday night service at any time is encouraged to download the new version of the siddur from the above link and make use of this resource.

As for the previous versions, print it out double-sided, flipping the pages on the short edge to get the pages of the booklet the right way around.

PS: It would appear I did indeed invent the word "genizable", as all the Google hits for it currently seem to be preceded by "oxy-" or "homo-". It's a most useful concept, and one I've been using to friends and (longer) inside my head for a long time.

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One hears stories of rabbis* replying to the typical nonbeliever's grouch against religion with "The God you don't believe in, I don't believe in either."

* I can't remember who, and googling this phrase, one comes up with any number of people to whom it has been attributed.

I'm happy to accept that notable rabbis have said this. My question is that if, as moderns, we don't believe in a simplistic theology dating from thousands of years ago, which is irreconcilable with what we see in the world, but instead come up with sophisticated ways of trying to bridge that gap, be it pantheism or panentheism, the philosophy of Buber or that of Levinas (or even of Mordecai Kaplan, though this would not be acceptable to the traditionalist rabbis of which I am talking), etc, etc, then why do we as Jews still pray with a liturgy addressing itself to that God we agree we don't believe in?

And yes, I'm aware of the tension between the need to adapt liturgy to make it speak to people, and the danger of loss of the authority that comes from changing too far wording that has been hallowed through usage over the centuries; but still.

Or, to put it another way: if being killed and enslaved and carried off into exile, then persecuted and murdered and expelled from our countries multiple times through the ages, and eventually subjected to a cold-blooded attempt at total genocide resulting in 5.6 million deaths is not enough to outweigh two or three incidents from the very remote past in which God did save our people (again, coming from a traditionalist perspective that does not query the historicity of this), then what the hell would be?
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I've just read Wide Sargasso Sea, by Jean Rhys, who wrote the novel because she was incensed by what she perceived as the one-sided and unfair portrayal of the mad Creole* woman Bertha Rochester in Jane Eyre. [Spoilers for Jane Eyre follow... stop laughing; I never read it until I was thirty-eight.]

* "Creole" apparently means one who was born in—and into the culture of—the West Indies; it seems I was wrong to deduce from the linguistic meaning of the term that she was not entirely of white blood.

The premise intrigued me, and the book vaulted to near the top of my to-read list, but when I read it, to be honest I found it a bit disappointing. It's full of the kind of literary symbolism that I never get until it's pointed out to me by reading the book's introduction (almost always written to be read afterwards), but I felt it didn't mesh well with Jane Eyre, and that was a prerequisite for this story. I didn't feel her madness was either well portrayed or well explained. I've come across more convincing (if not necessarily realistic: I wouldn't know about that) portrayals of people going mad in literature. And indeed, it seems less the case that she went mad than that Rochester chooses to perceive her as such, and that it's her subsequent incarceration by him that actually drives her out of her sanity. (Creepily, there is the implication the same may have been the case for her mother as well).

Be that as it may, though, by the time of Jane Eyre (which really doesn't seem after as long an interval as Jane Eyre implied), Antoinette should have been portrayed at the level of wildness we see in that book, and she is not. I'm happy to accept Rochester in Jane Eyre as an unreliable narrator, but not what Jane sees through her own eyes. The Bertha Jane sees, reduced to an animal-like state, indeed sometimes on all fours, and apparently incapable of speech, is incommensurate with the portrayal in Wide Sargasso Sea of an Antoinette capable of rational conversation with Grace Poole, and merely suffering from memory lapses. And while the explanation for why Bertha/Antoinette attacked her brother with a knife then bit him did work well, I didn't buy the portrayal of her setting Thornfield on fire in her dream by accident. In Jane Eyre this does not come out of nowhere; it's set up by the fact she previously tried to burn the place down and kill her husband (prior, one might expect, to herself), when the fire was discovered and put out by Jane Eyre. Which is a pivotal plot moment in that book: it's the point when Rochester falls in love with Jane and starts calling her by her first name.

Indeed, in Wide Sargasso Sea, Antoinette does not seem aware of Jane at all; the incident in which Bertha rips apart Jane's bridal veil was noticeably lacking in this novel.

I also felt the portrayal of Rochester was not very commensurate with that in Jane Eyre, though there's enough time between Part Two of Wide Sargasso Sea and Jane Eyre for Rochester's character to have improved.

At any rate, I found the novel an interesting portrayal of the problems of Jamaican and Dominican society in the decades after the abolition of slavery, just rather disappointing in the aspect which made me read it in the first place.

Béla Bartók

Saturday, March 14th, 2015 10:20 pm
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Eugene Hütz originally decided to call the band that ended up as Gogol Bordello "Hütz and the Béla Bartóks", but changed the name because "nobody knows who the hell Béla Bartók is in the United States."

Personally, I think the name of Béla Bartók is more recognisable in the west than that of Nikolai Gogol, but is that just me? What do you think?
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[photo: Library  ook return]

[ETA: Well, that was brilliant timing of me, wasn't it? Still, I posted it fifty minutes before the world knew the man had died. Time to listen to "Spem in Alium Nunquam Habui" in sympathy, I think.]

Beatrice murals

Sunday, March 8th, 2015 11:41 am
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This (click here for larger image) mural on the side of the Beatrice in Camden is all very nice...

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...but I cannot see how it justifies painting over this:

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Lilya WinoLJoDW used this as the event page art for the Friday night service and meal I'll be going to this Shabbos.

Wow, is all I can say. A quick google reveals the original is available for sale for a mere £4170*. Hey, it's my birthday coming up; anybody want to get it for me? (Don't ask where I'd find room to hang it.)

* Or ₤4170, as that page has it. Why are there Unicode glyphs for pounds signs with both one and two crossbars?

At last!

Monday, February 23rd, 2015 07:33 pm
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Took me nineteen years, this did!

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[Now you know all about it, I'll point out that Shakespeare's Globe in putting on The Merchant of Venice this summer. Can I interest anyone in seeing it with me as a groundling? (I'm not really interested in paying a minimum of three and a half times the price for an inferior experience seated.)]

Jewish learning notes index

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I mentioned a little while ago that I was thinking of trying miracle berries, for the novelty of the experience. These contain a substance which binds at a molecular level to sour-tasting molecules but itself binds to sweet-flavour receptors on the tongue, thus converting sour flavours into sweet.

It turned out (perhaps not surprisingly) that you can't just go down to the greengrocers and pick some of these berries up: they're too delicate. If you want fresh berries, you can order them on the Internet, and they will be sent to you packed in dry ice. This costs quite a lot, and they don't last very long, so I didn't do that. Alternatively, you can get a powder made from the berries. This costs less, but still quite a lot, and lasts longer, but still not very long, so I didn't do that either.

Alternatively, you can buy pills made from the berry. These cost £13 for a pack of ten (the site I bought them from described the berry as the most expensive fruit in the world!), and last up to eighteen months. I wasn't very happy at the idea of buying dodgy pills off an Internet site, so I read around quite a bit before I went ahead with doing so. There are a number of sites selling miracle berry pills, and pretty much all of them have a FAQ featuring the question "Is it safe?"... and every site bar one said yes it is. That one exception (I can't now remember which it is, and have got better things to do than try and find it again) said something like, "No, it is not safe; we are selling you these pills as an example to show you what they look like"―obviously covering their own tracks in case they get sued. What made this ridiculous is that they even provided a recipe to use with miracle berries, but then told you in the "Is it safe?" FAQ not to use it!

Anyhow, in the end I ordered pills from mberry, and tried them out with [livejournal.com profile] aviva_m. One doesn't swallow the tablet; because it acts on one's tongue, instead you let it dissolve on your tongue until it's completely gone.

The Net of a Million Lies suggested some foods to try out with miracle berries: lemons, beer, grapefruit juice, dill pickles (and their brine), Tabasco sauce/chilli peppers, strawberries and vinegar. We tried out most of these, and indeed most of them did taste sweeter as a result. The food left a strange sweet taste in the mouth afterwards, [livejournal.com profile] aviva_m said it tasted artificial. I concur: it reminded me more of the taste of artificial sweeteners than pure sugar; but this aftertaste wasn't much present when food was actually in our mouths, and didn't detract from the food's taste.

I'd been wondering whether the miraculin would be enough to saturated the sour receptors on the tongue, i.e. would the sour taste be completely replaced with sweetness? The answer was no: you could still taste sourness, but it was outweighed by sweetness, in the same way that the sugar in lemon meringue pie or lemon and lime marmalade offsets the sourness of the lemon.

We didn't have lemons, since we had limes in the house to finish up, and we tried those first, and they were interesting. Then we tried grapefruit, and that was the big success for me. I don't like grapefruit, it's too sour for me, but the miracle berry suddenly turned it into something I really liked, and I chomped my way enthusiastically through most of the grapefruit. (I hadn't gone overboard on the limes, as the Web warned that though miracle berries make acidic fruit sweet, they don't make them any less acidic, and you can get indigestion if you go and guzzle several whole lemons.)

Beer was disappointing. Neither [livejournal.com profile] aviva_m nor I like beer, so we were hoping this would create a new sensation for us. In actuality, the Carlsberg (IIRC) I bought tasted completely unchanged. The same applied to cheese (except that I was the only one of the two of us not liking it).

Strawberries were also a little disappointing: People on the Web had written "this is how strawberries should always taste." For me, whilst they did taste a bit sweeter, strawberries are naturally sweet, and I don't feel they need additional sweetening. I wonder whether my reaction might be influenced by the fact that (not uncommonly, I believe) as I've grown older, I've found my taste widening to less and less sweet things. Indeed, I think I actually find strawberries sweeter than I used to, though it's possible that this is because (as with pineapple) there's a new, sweeter variety sold nowadays that didn't exist when I was growing up. At any rate, I was raised dipping strawberries in sugar when I ate them, and find such additional sweetening completely unnecessary nowadays.

Dill pickles I fluffed slightly, as I accidentally bought an already sweetened version. (Being in Germany at the time, the dill pickles sold in the supermarket didn't always quite match up, either by name or contents, with what I'm used to in the UK.) Tabasco sauce I also found not particularly enhanced; and vinegar I didn't get a chance to try: Malt vinegar is unknown in Germany (only the British and the Swedes consume it in Europe, apparently, and whilst you can get it in shops serving British ex-pats, they're not open late on a Saturday evening), and kosher wine vinegar is also not something I could buy from the local supermarket on a Saturday evening. So I'll try vinegar under the influence of miraculin at home some time when I'm having fish and chips. :o)

All in all, then, miracle berries were an interesting experiment to try, but not really something I'd rave over, except for what it did for grapefruit. If anyone wants to join me in trying the foodstuffs I haven't already tried out under their influence―or take some of the unused tablets off my hands―do please drop a comment here. Otherwise I'll probably finish off the rest of the tablets on grapefruit or grapefruit juice over the course of the year. :o)

More Linux woes

Wednesday, February 11th, 2015 06:51 pm
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Having had some further problems with CentOS, and having also got home from work especially early this evening, I decided I would take the opportunity to install Fedora in place of CentOS. Well, I had some problems with it accepting the current partitioning, and thought maybe if I abandoned that it would sort things.

Only it didn't. It crashed, repeatably, at "Setting up installation environment" shortly after starting to reformat the entire hard disk. (I hope to hell the backup of my filespace I performed just beforehand worked!) Which means I have no working computer at all now. (The only reason I'm able to post this is because I took the precaution of bringing home my work laptop in case I needed to check things online during the early stages of the installation process.)

So it looks like my fourteen-year relationship with Red Hat is coming to an end (except professionally). What Linux distro would you recommend I switch to instead?

Grrr, CentOS!

Sunday, February 8th, 2015 06:11 pm
lethargic_man: Yellow smiley face, only with a neutral expression instead of the smile (Have a [gap] day)
I've been using Fedora Linux, and its RedHat ancestors for fourteen odd years now. People keep suggesting I should switch to a different distro, but I've resisted because I'm familiar with the way this one works. However, it has the disadvantage of a very fast release cycle: each release is only supported for thirteen months, and though I've got setting things back up so that I can do it in a single Sunday now, there will still normally bit little bits I'll be discovering for the following week or two that need tweaking.

Last week, I realised I'd overshot the end of the Fedora 19 support cycle when Firefox started refusing to play videos because the Flash plugin was out-of-date. I'd been recommended to switch to CentOS, which is another branch of the RedHat Linux family, but which has ten year support periods, so I thought I'd try that.

After installing, I discovered the repositories I needed were different, but after most of the day, I managed to get most of the software I use working, but there were exceptions. VLC and MPlayer's dependencies clash, so I can't get them both working at once. FFMPEG refuses to install. But most annoyingly, there's no package anywhere on the Net to install Hugin, the photo-stitching software I use a lot, for CentOS. All I can find on the Web is people posting for help, saying they couldn't manage it with CentOS 6 (I'm using CentOS 7), and being recommended to compile it themselves, but running into dependency hell.

I tried myself; when I realised I was running into difficulty building libpano13 so I could install libpano13-devel so I could compile Hugin itself, I knew I'd gone out of my depth. (And now my yum repository is screwed because I was installing non-CentOS 7 versions of other packages just to try and get Hugin to build.)

I'm furious. I don't want to doing this kind of stuff at home; I just want software to work either out of the box, or following a simple set of instructions on the Web. But now it looks like a piece of software I use all the time is completely uninstallable, and there's nothing I can do about it. I'm half tempted to go back to the latest version of Fedora, but I really don't want to have to waste a second Sunday (I don't have time for the job any other day of the week, and sometimes not even on Sunday) doing that!

I don't suppose by any chance there's anyone reading this who's managed to get Hugin or an equivalent photo-stitching program running under CentOS, is there?

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